Stanton Friedman Roswell 1947 CHD 5-01

Roswell Panel

Roswell Panel , Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 1:45PM Stanton T. Friedman

People have often asked me why I think aliens would want to visit Earth. I have noted many reasons, (Graduate students doing their thesis research on a primitive society, mining of dense metals as we have the densest planet in the solar system , etc, but the most important to me is that I consider all civilizations would be concerned about their own survival and security. That means keeping tabs on those primitive societies in the neighborhood that show signs of being able to bother them. By July, 1947, it was clear to any aliens in the neighborhood, that we have a primitive society whose major activity is tribal warfare and that soon (Less than 100 years)we will be able to visit aliens out there, taking our brand of friendship (everybody else calls it hostility).The facts that demonstrate that are nuclear weapons, powerful rockets, and radar (the beginning of advanced electronic systems). Isn’t it amazing that the only place in the world where one could then study all three was Southeastern New Mexico. Our first nuclear weapon was detonated at Trinity Site on the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, July 16, 1945. White Sands is where we were testing captured German V-2 rockets and others. That is where we had our best radar to track the Rockets. Sometimes they went South instead of North..And of course as it turns out there were at least 3 flying Saucer crashes in New Mexico. In Early July 1947 there was a crash near the small town of Corona less than 80 miles from the Roswell Army Air Field In nearby Roswell. 100 miles west there was an unpublicized crash at about the same time in the Plains of San Agustin as described in a soon to be published book by Arthur Campbell, and there was a crash retrieval operation in Aztec, New Mexico, in the 4 corners area in March 1948.See” The Aztec Incident” by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey

I was the first to hear about the Corona crash as discussed in my book ”Crash at Corona” with Don Berliner. Simple story. I had begun lecturing about flying saucers in 1967 while working as a nuclear physicist in industry for companies such as GE,GM, Westinghouse, etc.. In 1978 I was in Baton Rouge Louisiana to speak at Louisiana State University. I was at a TV station to do three interviews to promote my LSU lecture that evening. I had done 2 of the interviews ,but the third reporter was not to be found in those pre cell phone days. The station manager knew I had other things to do and was giving me coffee and looking at his watch. Out of the blue he said “The guy you really ought to talk to is Jesse Marcel. He handled wreckage of one of those saucers when he was in the military”. I practically dropped my teeth.” What do you know about him?,” I asked. “He lives in Houma”. That wasn’t much help as I didn’t then know where it was. City in Louisiana.that I visited later to interview Jesse “ We are ham radio buddies, you should talk to him.” Then the third reporter showed up, interviewed me, and I was on my way for other activities.

That night there was a great crowd. Next day I was at the airport early, called information, got a number for Jesse Marcel in Houma and called him. He told me his story. He, as I found out later, couldn’t deny his involvement as his name was in papers across the country. Soon thereafter I heard about the Plains of San Agustin crash after a lecture in Bemidji, Minnnesota. I shared both stories with an old colleague from Pittsburgh, Bill Moore, who lived in Minnesota. He had a third story from the” Flying Saucer Review” of the UK. An English actor named Hughie Green had noted that he heard about a crashed saucer in New Mexico when driving from LA to Philadelphia. He recalled the date as early July 1947, Bill looked at Newspapers at the University of Minnesota and found the story. We were off to the races and

over the next 18 months we found 62 people from the 509th Bomb Group, the most elite military group in the world having dropped nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and 2 more at Operation Cross roads in 1946. I called the Roswell Daily Record . I mentioned I had some articles noting a crash of a saucer as reported by Walter Haut (spelled 4 different ways) I was shocked to be told that his wife worked at the paper! I spoke with her and then Walter who was a big help for many years. I also got lucky calling information and finding Bill Brazel son of the rancher who had reported the wreckage. I checked with West Point and located retired General Thomas J. Dubose who shows up with 8th Air Force commander General Roger Ramey in widely circulated pictures taken in Ramey’s office A DVD “Recollections of Roswell” has interviews with 27 first hand witnesses including Jesse Marcel, Walter Haut, T.J. Dubose, Bill Brazel etc. Several of us here will be speaking at the annual Roswell Festival July 4- 7, 2013. I should stress that much of the Early Roswell research was done before the Internet. There is an important witness here today. Colonel Jesse A. Marcel Junior, is a medical doctor who was called back in the army at age 68 to fight in Iraq and flew over 200 combat hours as a flight surgeon in helicopters.His father was Major Jesse Marcel Jr. And he handled Saucer Wreckage in 1947.

There are, of course, many Roswell debunkers who do their research by proclamation, not investigation. Their motto is “Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind is made up” and “what the public doesn’t know I won’t tell them.”As a physicist I want facts not fantasy..Note that fusion rockets will go to the stars. I worked on fusion rockets in 1961

Stanton T. Friedman fsphys@rogers.com www.stantonfriedman.com

Roswell Panel-2

Roswell Panel , Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 1:45PM Stanton T. Friedman

People have often asked me why I think aliens would want to visit Earth. I have noted many reasons, (Graduate students doing their thesis research on a primitive society, mining of dense metals as we have the densest planet in the solar system , etc, but the most important to me is that I consider all civilizations would be concerned about their own survival and security. That means keeping tabs on those primitive societies in the neighborhood that show signs of being able to bother them. By July, 1947, it was clear to any aliens in the neighborhood, that we have a primitive society whose major activity is tribal warfare and that soon (Less than 100 years)we will be able to visit aliens out there, taking our brand of friendship (everybody else calls it hostility).The facts that demonstrate that are nuclear weapons, powerful rockets, and radar (the beginning of advanced electronic systems). Isn’t it amazing that the only place in the world where one could then study all three was Southeastern New Mexico. Our first nuclear weapon was detonated at Trinity Site on the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, July 16, 1945. White Sands is where we were testing captured German V-2 rockets and others. That is where we had our best radar to track the Rockets. Sometimes they went South instead of North..And of course as it turns out there were at least 3 flying Saucer crashes in New Mexico. In Early July 1947 there was a crash near the small town of Corona less than 80 miles from the Roswell Army Air Field In nearby Roswell. 100 miles west there was an unpublicized crash at about the same time in the Plains of San Agustin as described in a soon to be published book by Arthur Campbell, and there was a crash retrieval operation in Aztec, New Mexico, in the 4 corners area in March 1948.See” The Aztec Incident” by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey

I was the first to hear about the Corona crash as discussed in my book ”Crash at Corona” with Don Berliner. Simple story. I had begun lecturing about flying saucers in 1967 while working as a nuclear physicist in industry for companies such as GE,GM, Westinghouse, etc.. In 1978 I was in Baton Rouge Louisiana to speak at Louisiana State University. I was at a TV station to do three interviews to promote my LSU lecture that evening. I had done 2 of the interviews ,but the third reporter was not to be found in those pre cell phone days. The station manager knew I had other things to do and was giving me coffee and looking at his watch. Out of the blue he said “The guy you really ought to talk to is Jesse Marcel. He handled wreckage of one of those saucers when he was in the military”. I practically dropped my teeth.” What do you know about him?,” I asked. “He lives in Houma”. That wasn’t much help as I didn’t then know where it was. City in Louisiana.that I visited later to interview Jesse “ We are ham radio buddies, you should talk to him.” Then the third reporter showed up, interviewed me, and I was on my way for other activities.

That night there was a great crowd. Next day I was at the airport early, called information, got a number for Jesse Marcel in Houma and called him. He told me his story. He, as I found out later, couldn’t deny his involvement as his name was in papers across the country. Soon thereafter I heard about the Plains of San Agustin crash after a lecture in Bemidji, Minnnesota. I shared both stories with an old colleague from Pittsburgh, Bill Moore, who lived in Minnesota. He had a third story from the” Flying Saucer Review” of the UK. An English actor named Hughie Green had noted that he heard about a crashed saucer in New Mexico when driving from LA to Philadelphia. He recalled the date as early July 1947, Bill looked at Newspapers at the University of Minnesota and found the story. We were off to the races and

over the next 18 months we found 62 people from the 509th Bomb Group, the most elite military group in the world having dropped nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and 2 more at Operation Cross roads in 1946. I called the Roswell Daily Record . I mentioned I had some articles noting a crash of a saucer as reported by Walter Haut (spelled 4 different ways) I was shocked to be told that his wife worked at the paper! I spoke with her and then Walter who was a big help for many years. I also got lucky calling information and finding Bill Brazel son of the rancher who had reported the wreckage. I checked with West Point and located retired General Thomas J. Dubose who shows up with 8th Air Force commander General Roger Ramey in widely circulated pictures taken in Ramey’s office A DVD “Recollections of Roswell” has interviews with 27 first hand witnesses including Jesse Marcel, Walter Haut, T.J. Dubose, Bill Brazel etc. Several of us here will be speaking at the annual Roswell Festival July 4- 7, 2013. I should stress that much of the Early Roswell research was done before the Internet. There is an important witness here today. Colonel Jesse A. Marcel Junior, is a medical doctor who was called back in the army at age 68 to fight in Iraq and flew over 200 combat hours as a flight surgeon in helicopters.His father was Major Jesse Marcel Jr. And he handled Saucer Wreckage in 1947.

There are, of course, many Roswell debunkers who do their research by proclamation, not investigation. Their motto is “Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind is made up” and “what the public doesn’t know I won’t tell them.”As a physicist I want facts not fantasy..Note that fusion rockets will go to the stars. I worked on fusion rockets in 1961

Stanton T. Friedman fsphys@rogers.com www.stantonfriedman.com